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Does being gay allow us to touch without consent?
@Ohbohy Don't think this conversation has ended mate. Just because you can't provide a logic behind why touching someone without their consent isn't molestation doesn't end this conversation. You need come with a logical reason and then only a real discussion can even take place.
Does being gay allow us to touch without consent?
@fun6969 Well, obviously it's not a rocket science that you can't even figure out a decent way on how to take someone's consent before touching him. But still if you aren't unable to figure it out then, just curb your horniness and simply don't touch. Just don't let your pervert mind turn you into a molester and ruins someone's life. As simple as that.
Does being gay allow us to touch without consent?
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Your comment ended up this entire conversation in a sarcastic way with a deep logic inside it..You really nailed it ;)
I am not at all in favor behind the logic of comparing a man's touch to a man with molestation and rapes..Come on how can just a touch be a harassment,molestation or ***!! And comparing these fun thrilled touches with those rapes happening with girls is really insane to me!

I just know that majority of men are men and they take it as simple as it should be taken as!
Those who dont like it should react as they want immediately to stop before it becomes a so cold trauma for them!! No man would be interested in touching them again that is for sure,Period!
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Does being gay allow us to touch without consent?
Well said bro. You nailed it.
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Does being gay allow us to touch without consent?
Can someone tell how to ask a man first then touch..
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Does being gay allow us to touch without consent?
Its not okay to touch someone without consent
Could fall into big troubles at times too
Though i like it and feel thrilled when someone touches me in a sexual way
Does being gay allow us to touch without consent?
@Ohbohy So, by your logic, if a man objects from getting molested then, he is homophobic. Wow! You certainly give a new meaning to this term - 'homophobia'.πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ Also, had no clue that i was also homophobic till i saw your comment. So, thanks for the enlightenment πŸ˜‘

I remember that once, a very prominent politician of our country tried to explain about why rapes happen against women in his election rally. And in his statement he said that the reason behind rapes happening against women are women themselves. Women encourage guys by wearing short clothes and in a way give hints and welcome such incidents. So, it's not the rapist but the victim who should be blamed for such incidents. He also said that guys just do to it because they can't control their hormones and their body from committing such a heinous crime.
Now, many people on this thread share the same mindset as that of the politician. For them, it's not the predator who should be blamed for an incident like molestation but instead, they are questioning the credibility of the victim and blaming him for getting molested. So, here, we can see some classic examples of victim blaming. Because many people just can't acknowledge the simple fact that they are actually the wrongdoers and need to fix themselves but not the person who gets molested.
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Does being gay allow us to touch without consent?
I do not mind if some one touched me discretely
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Does being gay allow us to touch without consent?
There is a big natural hormonal difference in creation of men and women, so we cannot compare at all. And when I say a man- be it straight or gay. A woman has a hormonal tendency of not liking and unknown/ unwanted touch. In case of men, there would be a major population who either get aroused by a touch near the genitals- be it by a man or a woman. I am clarifying it that it is not the same with all, but yes for majority of men due to the structural body creation. So when a random touch happens to a man, be it with consent or without consent, by a man or a woman. It most likely does not give an irritation as a response unless the guy is too homophobic.
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Does being gay allow us to touch without consent?
Would it be appropriate for anyone to touch a Girl and then gauge her reaction and then proceed? Ofcourse not. You'd end up being slapped or Worse.

So , it's obvious. It's Not Right . It's actually wrong .

Your hormonal imbalances doesn't give you any right to act as a freak.
Does being gay allow us to touch without consent?
If the other guy is okay, then okay
Does being gay allow us to touch without consent?
At this time, when we are fighting for equal rights like our straight counterparts, we should prepare ourselves for equal definition of gender related crimes as well. Shouting for equal marriage rights, equal spousal benefits etc; and then thinking that touching a man without consent is okay, is a big hypocrisy.
Does being gay allow us to touch without consent?
@Sanki, first get your theory straight... Each & every person has a mix of male and female hormones - it's not only about gays...
And justifying this behavior by hormonal imbalance is like saying "boys will be boys. Girls should stay cautious"...
And about the ongoing topic, I don't support touching anyone without consent. This is a very big reason for which Gay community is looked down upon by straight guys. Because lot of them has faced such behaviour in public transport and they can't help but make a strained image about gay people in their head.
Does being gay allow us to touch without consent?
On this topic I wish to say the strong harmones are to be blamed, they play the actual trick,
As you see almost all the gay persons have a mix up mess in the brain between male and female harmones (testosterone and estrogen). That's why we are called "bich ka"....
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Does being gay allow us to touch without consent?
@HeadsTailsAndHo If you will read my full post then, you can easily understand why i have added 'being gay' in my title. The simple answer is that we are talking about this issue by placing the gay context in the front and not not the general context. As i have mentioned in my post that the incident of molestation gets easily ignored in the gay community and people don't even realise that they are doing something wrong which can ruin someone's life is very disturbing aspect. It may be fun for some but a traumatic experience for many.

What you said about Sayyd's comment is something with which i agree to you personally. It's weird that he stopped someone from getting molested but in the end got himself molested by the same guy he saved. And that's what makes matter more grave. As he said and you questioned that when he got the guy of his choice then, he didn't count it as molestation and enjoyed the process. But then, it was his personal opinion and not the general one. If you will ask me then, no matter how attractive a guy is, i would never want anyone to touch me without my consent. I have said the same thing in my earlier comment too, when i was replying to @Anonymous 2017. He raised the same question as your have raised here. Also, what happened with Sayyd was a pure coincidence that both the guy had the same mindset. Also it's clear from Sayyd's post that he liked to be touched but with the guy of his preference. But not everyone is the same. For many it doesn't matter who the person is, the simple rule is that someone touching them without their consent makes them extremely uncomfortable and intolerable. So, what do you think we should do in such situations when it isn't clear if the person likes to be touched or not? How can we confirm it? And the simple answer is by asking them if they like it or not and not reacting on our instincts. As i said earlier that you can't get a confirmation that a stranger likes it or not unless and untill you don't ask the person verbally. And if there are circumstances where you aren't in a position to ask then, simply one should curb his horniness and wait for the right partner and the right time to ask. Not that if circumstances aren't allowing me to take consent then i rely on my instincts and simply touch someone sensually.
Now, since you said that this rule should be followed in all the context and not just in the gay community (which i completely agree) then, just put the same situation in the heterosexual context. There may be some guys and girls who like to touch and getting touched by the opposite *** without their consent. But there are a lot of people in the heterosexual world for whom it's an act of molestation and a traumatic experience. So, just imagine a guy goes in public and starts touching girls body without her consent and just relying on his instincts having a thinking that some girls like such an experience. Now, tell me, is he doing the right thing? Shouldn't he ask before touching a girl and not just touch her by judging her body behaviour and relying on eye contact? Because even if he is making majority of the guesses right and making just few of them wrong(which is a very unlikely result if you are relying just on someone's body behaviour and eye contact) then, he is just ruining the life of those girls and making them go through not less than a trauma.
Does being gay allow us to touch without consent?
@HeadsTailsAndHo you nailed it ....must agree playing victims or the molestors both choose there frequency if suits it's not a problem if not it's frustrating n in blunt STRAIGHT GAY LESBIAN TRANSGENDER or MINORS of all sexes it's NON CONSENSUS it's a *** can be verbal or physical It's causing harm to the opposite side.
Does being gay allow us to touch without consent?
I have not read all of the posts on this thread but started reading from bottom and found the post by @sayyyd, bit interesting.
As per him, the unconsentful touch by the predator was bad, but unconsentful touch by the hot guy, made him to go to 7th heaven.

This is the point.
It is like consensual or non-consensual, if the person is of our choice, we are ok with that touch. Otherwise we feel abused, mistreated, harassed, exploited and what not.
Does being gay allow us to touch without consent?
Being gay or str8, first we are human being... And a common human being (male or female) touches others, without consent also, irrespective of the gender... And that touch can be considered inappropriate by many.

So I think, no point to add "being gay.." in this thread title.
Does being gay allow us to touch without consent?
Once I saw a good looking hot decent guy getting molested and harassed by a much older habitual predator in the pscked Mumbai train. The predator had troubled me previously so I had a lot of anger towards him and I also felt like saving the young guy. I pulled together all my might and dislodged the predator and then stood in his place without initiating anything. When the station came the hot guy lowered his hand and caressed me. I was in 7th heaven. After alighting we spoke briefly and exchanged numbers. We met twice later for fun at my place.
Does being gay allow us to touch without consent?
@Anonymous 2017 How does it even matter if you are doing it in a straight forward way or in a hidden way? At the end of the day, you are just indulging yourself in the act of molestation. It doesn't matter how you are doing it. It's like you either kill someone by stabbing in public or making him eat poison-mixed food. In both the ways you are just murdering someone.

Now let me tell you what happens to the person who goes through the traumatic experience of molestation. When i got molested on the train, for many days i kept thinking that why such a thing happened to me in the first place. I kept asking myself that why he targeted me in the whole coach. I cursed myself for many days for not raising my voice instantly and why i even let that happen to me. It made me feel like a very dirty person, even though he was the one who did something dirty to me. Someone came and just used me without my consent and i couldn't even gather the courage to stop that person at the right time. It shattered my confidence into pieces and i felt like a b-grade human being who couldn't even protect his own body from getting used against his consent by a stranger. It took me some time to realise that it wasn't my fault. I was just not well equipped with the correct mindset in order to tackle that situation in a proper way at that stage of my life. But i'm telling you very honestly that most of the people go through the same pathetic feeling when they get molested by someone. A person starts to question his/her own identity. And in few cases these experiences can become extremely traumatic. As you are totally unaware of the background of the person who is getting touched, it there is a high chance that the person ends up in a very shattered condition. And it becomes more tough for those people to deal with the situation who have already experienced some form of molestation previously in their life, maybe in their childhood or teenage. Now, just think that there is a big probability that you are putting someone in those traumatic situations by your actions, just because you are seeking for some casual fun and couldn't gather enough guts to ask for their consent as you fear that it can reveal your identity. You are thinking from your point of view. But once try to think from the aspect of the person who is getting molested. And if you fail to judge the intention of the other person based on your instincts, even just 3 times out of 10 then, you are basically ruining the life of those 3 people in some ways or another. And i'm sure the number of fail attempts goes higher than 3 in the cases of most of the people who indulge in such activities. Because it's never an easy task to judge the exact thoughts of a person just by looking at their action or by making eye contacts. You are basically relying on your instincts where there is a good chance that you may fail in reading the person's mind in a proper way. So, one should think of these points before touching someone in a sensual manner without taking their consent. And with consent, it means by asking that person verbally. And if someone is unable to ask because of circumstances then, he should simply shouldn't indulge in such acts. Because people's self respect and emotions matter more than someone's horniness and your 10 minutes fun time.
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Does being gay allow us to touch without consent?
So, just for our safety of being caught or being exposed before others, its fine to grab others' private parts in public? So, for you to be safe, its fine if you put others at risk? One May be strong enough mentally to let go of such incidents, but not everyone. For few, who are sensitive, it leaves a scar on their mind forever. Dont always think from your end, think from others shoes as well. If a similar thing happens to your dear ones (could be your boy friend too) who comes home crying, would you just brush it off asking not to create a scene? Would you say someone liked your body and so tried to quench his lust, and whats the big deal in that?

I would definitely say its molestation and wouldnt do that to others without their consent. Even if I met any through a dating app, i wouldnt do anything he/she is not comfortable with.

An eye contact, or any guestures might help in some cases, but not always.
Does being gay allow us to touch without consent?
And also I don't know if this is relevant comment to this post or not... But still I think this make sense

People.. who visit cruising places... So support of any of our person is in trouble cause of some local goons.. they might be 2 or 3 or 7.. but people who visit for cruising would be in more number n in fact few more stronger.. just get into help to one who is in terrible even if he had rejected you have physical fun with you..

1. If there are 2 guys who are interested in themselves, please don't disturb them, instead please try to go away or guard them..
2. If you notice any goons or police, do pass the info to others to that they get safe
3. If one is not intrested, don't follow him or distrub him
4. And if you are interested then give someone a positive signal so that one can approach you...
Does being gay allow us to touch without consent?
@ letsfuck : Well said ! πŸ‘ŒπŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»Nicely explained πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ˜…I also agree with fifty πŸ™‚

Highlights of both the posts πŸ‘‰πŸ» Never ever there is a straightaway grabbing ! 🀦🏻 The guy would be in deep trouble if he does so πŸ™„ So also, straight away asking a stranger in a public place for consent is not only awkward but very dangerous 😨 So a touch appearing accidental or inevitable due to crowd is more safe to gauge the liking of the other guy. If there is objection, it should be stopped immediately. But if the other guy is ok with it or rather seems to enjoy, it can be continued.

In Mumbai locals 2X2, it's a different experience indeed ! Sometimess it so happens that a guy likes to be touched but finds it very embarassing to ask strangers to do the favour. So if he finds someone intentionally touching his ****, he holds the stranger's palm against his own **** , giving him an assurance that he loves what the stranger is doing ! πŸ˜… This way, both guys satisfy their desires through such discreet encounters.
Does being gay allow us to touch without consent?
Also, a touch appearing accidental or inevitable due to crowd rush also counts as molestation because what we are doing is intentional but making it appear unintentional. Now, put the same thing in heterosexual aspect. A guy touching a stranger girl in public without her consent but trying to make it appear like unintentional. What would you call that act? And won't that guy be called a pervert.
Now, people may argue that you can't compare the heterosexual world with ours. But in my opinion molestation is molestation. Doesn't matter if it's happening to a guy or a girl, a heterosexual or homosexual. It's can affect anyone and can even leave a scar on someone's mind for the lifetime.
Does being gay allow us to touch without consent?
Well, i haven't travelled in Mumbai local trains. So, can't say what and how exactly it happens particularly there. But i have read about a lot of guys who have touched others without their consent. And to be honest i have experienced it in my own life itself. Also, many people that i have met have told me the same thing happened to them in public places without their consent. So, definitely it's a problem that we need to focus on for the progress of our community.
Does being gay allow us to touch without consent?
From my experience in Mumbai local trains, what letsfuck has written is absolutely true.
As regards asking for phone no, etc ; people dont have place to take the next step. It is a big issue. So the fondling remains limited to crowded local trains in most cases.
And hardly anyone grabs another person's *** straightway. Eye contact , a touch appearing accidental or inevitable due to crowd rush and so on.
Does being gay allow us to touch without consent?
@sangam_m I didn't say that homosexuals are pedophiles and molesters. How can i say that being a homosexual myself. What i said is that it's a stereotype that our community faces. And if we won't even realise that what we are doing is wrong then, it will only strengthen those stereotypes. I completely agree with the fact the molestation is a menace of the general society and not restricted to a certain community. But then, a guy touching a girl without her consent will always be tagged as molester. So, at least such acts are getting recognised there and punishment are made too. But in our community we are even failing to recognise such acts are in many cases it's getting encouraged. So, the problem lies there. Untill and unless we don't recognise our flaws then, how can we fix that?
Does being gay allow us to touch without consent?
@letsfuck To be honest an incident like that definitely affected my peace of my mind. And i'm pretty sure that i will affect thousands others like me. Not everyone is same and being a sensitive person, any stranger invading my personal space and trying to molest me would always affect me negatively.
Now, i do agree that eye contact does play a role in gauging the attraction of a person towards you. But then, how many people rely on eye contacts and body behaviour for making a move to fondle? In my case it didn't happen and i have read the experiences of lots of people on this website and observed that in huge number of cases, the person just advances and then, wait for the response. No eye contact and nothing happens. People travelling in a crowded bus or train, touching rapido drivers are few such examples. Also, another question to ponder about is that how much can you rely on these factors? I have done a fair bit of cruising and i know that these factors can never be fully reliable. Unless and untill you don't ask the person verbally, you can never be sure of their thoughts. And one more aspect is that being attracted to a stranger doesn't mean that i would start fondling him straight away.
Many people refrain themselves from asking verbally, as you mentioned that, it has a chance of your sexuality coming out in public domain. But then, there is a high chance that the same can happen when somone takes a chance to fondle a stranger without their consent. And on top of that there is also a big chance that the predator may also gets to face a lot of physical attack. And of course you can't blame anyone for that situation except the predator himself as he invited such circumstances through his action himself. and that person would be in no position to defend himself too. But if we ask someone verbally then, neither are we molesting anyone and nor there is a chance of someone attacking us physically and shaming us before all. And by asking i mean not in a offending way. As someone said in this thread, and to which i completely agree, that you can't directly ask a stranger if he wants to get fondled or not . Of course there are decent ways and i'm sure no one would mind those, even if they would not be interested in your proposal. Like you can just tell that you find him quite attractive and ask if he would like to share his number or go out together someday for coffee or something. How hard is that tbh? And isn't it much better than just grabbing someone's *** as your first response?
Does being gay allow us to touch without consent?
@shapeoflove, I agree that consent should be taken, without consent it is like taken for granted that every homosexual like being fondled/touched all the time and wherever possible. Every persons dignity must be respected. But the world is not that streight nor are morals. If everybody had been morally that correct then there would not have been 100 other wrong things happening around the globe that we see or hear about. Life in practical is sometime quite different that expected in theory.

In public places, consent is not taken by words but by body language, gestures and expressions in eyes. In some instances actions is without consent but that does not make every gay *** and molesters. Why only gay, this happens even with heterosexuals by heterosexuals. By calling the whole gay community pedophiles and molesters you unknowingly certifying that all heterosexuals actions are morally correct and never do anything immoral.
Does being gay allow us to touch without consent?
Hell no!! But a little bit of eye contact, body posture sure will make someone comfortable before getting touched!

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