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'Love is Love' but was it ever just about Love?


Submitted by ThirstResponder Location: All India (All India, India)

The phrase "love is love" is often celebrated within the queer community—and while it carries a certain poetic and powerful truth, it's important to remember that our struggle has never been solely about the right to love. Love, in its purest form, is untouchable—no law, institution, or ideology can truly take it from us.

What was denied to us was the right to express our desires—the freedom to engage in consensual ***, to form relationships, or simply exist outside of heteronormative expectations, regardless of whether love was involved. Our fight has always been against the systems, doctrines, and cultural norms that deemed our desires sinful, unnatural, or criminal.

This struggle was never just about love—it was about the right to live authentically, fully, and sexually, beyond the boundaries imposed on us. It's time we stop reducing queerness to just “love.” Because what we’ve been fighting for is much broader and more radical: the right to exist on our own terms.

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Anirudhbottom
Posted On Jun 9, 2025

We don't fall in love in 2020s it's mostly one sided or temporary attraction fakeness everywhere lying ghosting every moment then people having skyrocketing standards of dating
I just realised most queers deserve to end up single because they will never lower their standards

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NotTellingyou
Posted On Jun 9, 2025

The fact that I have given my body to people in search of finding love, ending up feeling used. we all need to apologize to our bodies for not treating it right and not giving it to only people who deserve it.

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Nisha Chudwani *
Posted On Jun 9, 2025

Love or Lust 💝
If you love your heart ❤️ may got broken 💔
If you lust your heart ❤️ shaped *** 🍑 may got broken
I prefer my 🍑 rather than ❤️

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saramaturegay
Posted On Jun 9, 2025

me 40+ still now i never get single love in my life. For me getting a person itself very difficult

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Ashok Kumar Blr
Posted On Jun 9, 2025

The phrase Love is Love is very absurd in my opinion.
Many people was open to relationship, but however their checklist and expectation is long as china walls.
Truly I wanted to settle down but I’m in my late 30’s and still struggle to have a date. I’m open to take on date or to go on date, but still the standard people. All speak up very nicely in Ohmojo, Grindr and PlanetRomeo profiles but they are in chat and reality they are not the person as described in profile.
This is just my experience. Please i don’t mean to
Offend anyone or this is not to mock or offend anyone directly or indirectly

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needsugardaddy2
Posted On Jun 9, 2025

I'm looking for good friendship love and care and long term relationship with a mature man guess 45 plus but so far whomever I have met they all are into just one night stand
I don't know why people afraid of living dual life

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Aseem Javed
Posted On Jun 9, 2025

True love is hard to find by. It must be deeply felt by those in a relationship that they truly love each other and stand by each other at all times. When I see LGBT couples on instagram, makes me feel genuinely happy for them. They seem truly in love.

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prat565
Posted On Jun 9, 2025

Even finding true friend is tough these days forget about love

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Arthit_Chowdary
Posted On Jun 9, 2025

Yeah U was correct it's all about being ourselves and not getting humiliated just because our Sexuality.

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Ranga21
Posted On Jun 9, 2025

Rare to find true love in our Community.

The biggest reason people break such relationships is distance.

I've seen some gay couples who are out of closet and breaking up after living together for nearly 15+ years . Just because someone had to move to another city/country you can't just break it. Probably it was not love.

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Gaylover156
Posted On Jun 9, 2025

Ha ha ha ha very well said guys every one ha pointed small looking great concerns and yes this days may are making a route taste and twest but does every one really stick to one partner for your self even with out seeing another when being with one this are 1 part of the Q
2nd based on their past broken heart experiences and seeing other with same quality makes them have a pinned belife which stops them
3rd problem in understing ur partner and can figure with many aspects as u can point coz boys never say or be open clearly .
4 important vevring heart of men and women
Socity , family blha blha blha points .looks ect and expections from seeing many drams dont u think
But dont u thinkif alike thinking people get together can change it

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Gaylover156
Posted On Jun 9, 2025

But seeing all this and leaving hope is it really a right choice ? Roses
And letting the veriables influence u with leaving ur own scent loves

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Makeoffun
Posted On Jun 10, 2025

Lust is better than love..

Love never fulfill our fantasy or likes..

Love is handcuffed our desires

And depending on others

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Heccer
Posted On Jun 10, 2025

Something a lot of ppl realise is that most ppl here are not gays . They are just sexually frustrated men finding ways to release it in anyways . atleast 50 percet of ppl are bisexuals or bi curious ppl

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Dreamybott
Posted On Jun 10, 2025

@Makeoffun wrong take, lust will keep u satisfied only till u find other new guy to have fun, the moment it stops , u will realise how lust causes frustration, anger and lonliness. Start loving yourself first if u want ppl to love u. Take care of ur physical nd mental health rest will soon follow. Contrary to what u said lust binds ppl, the more u meet ppl, the more u feel satisfied due to the instant dopamine. This instant release of dopamine becomes addictive so much so that we start equating our happiness with hookups. But inhindsight it never satisfies, it fuels the hunger nd craving to find another best option.

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Silverkok
Posted On Jun 10, 2025

I was searching for true love. Yes, my family—my brother, my wife, and my children—do love me, but their love is based on something they don’t know about me: that I’m gay. I often imagined what it would be like to stand in front of them and tell them the truth. But I couldn’t bear to imagine the consequences of that revelation.

And when they did find out, everything changed. The love in their eyes turned into disgust—something I couldn’t bear. That pain drove me to seek someone who could love me for who I truly am, someone who would still love me because I’m honest about my identity.

Now, I’m in a relationship with my beloved Heman. We truly love each other—deeply, genuinely, and unconditionally. Our relationship has grown into intimacy, but for us, *** isn't just physical—it's an expression of our love, trust, and emotional bond.

Our love has naturally led us to care deeply for one another. We never set out to "test" our love, but life itself tested us, and somewhere along the way, we realized we had passed. Today, we are each other’s everything. The idea of sharing a bed with anyone else feels wrong, almost unbearable.

To me, that is true love: when the very thought of being with someone else, while your lover is somewhere else, feels like betrayal—not just of them, but of yourself.

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blueboys *
Posted On Jun 11, 2025



Even finding true friend is tough these days forget about love...

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Anirudhbottom
Posted On Jun 11, 2025

Sare ullu banate hai hawas mitane kr liye istemaal krte hain

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tightbotboi
Posted On Jun 11, 2025

I am looking for a bf. age - no restriction.

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TopGenX
Posted On Jun 11, 2025

It should infact be "lust is lust". We all just need *** . A hole for our pole or vice versa. Why do we need to love anyone for our lust? Just do it and forget. We'll i know a lot of guys will get into trolling me for saying this. But come on guys, we have all been there and done that. No one here is pure and pious. So just chill and have good ***. Love is all bullshit.

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Dev_22
Posted On Jun 11, 2025

It's all about social stigma buddy ..... Even if people start texting you frequently , show concern or genuinely like you still get scared what if i am sharing too much with this person ...will this come to haunt me in future , is it a bad habit i should i get rid of off ... May be well never find answers .....

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Anirudhbottom
Posted On Jun 11, 2025

its all about bad experiences mera experience 20 bando ke saath kharab hua hainn kya guarantee hain 21st guy won't be jerk sabne jhoooth bolne mein phd kar rakhi hain vaise bhi sabko ek handsome netflix actor chahiye are fantasy se toh bahr niklo sab ke sab nobody is ready to reduce its bar

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nostrings98
Posted On Jun 12, 2025

Love comes with lot of complications. Lust is simple. Just respect and communication is key.

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Verstop4405
Posted On Jun 12, 2025

Ended my situationship yesterday. It hurts like hell....se started off as *** buddies in 2019. My last good *** with him as last Sat n sun. He is 10 yrs older than me I'm 27. He's been a good friend to mine but I started catching up feelings in 2024 oct nov....he was not at all convinced to have a relationship with me of didn't even said any clarifications regarding love. But my feelings greatly increased for him as we *** for hrs, rounds, it was a damn situationship but I fell deeply in love. It led to overthinking and since my job is in morning 6 i literally had trouble falling in sleep. My mind didn't take this kind of love and I started feeling sick. Every damn everywhere I'm thinking Abt him in ofc, in home. He knows this but he was in a dilemma to end our situationship as the *** part was damn good...I had other flings and he too but sabe jyada enjoyment satisfaction he Banda deta tha...my heart wanted to start a new chapter with him but he didn't want anything beyond *** from him, not even outing, movies or such. I learnt Abt his neighbouring friend whom he has been since 2018 and both even shifted their respective homes from lalbagh to tilaknagar. from 2018 he's his trusted friend even shared their keys of home, investments etc. when I confronted him Abt his friend he told me yes he hangout with him daily as he's living nearby even have *** but nowadays he's always frustrated and angry and I don't meet him. I do know the fact he's lying to make sure everything is ok between us but my heart couldn't take it anymore. I became sick yesterday and I called him to end our situationship as it's greatly taking a toll on my mental health. I'm writing this with a heavy heart that I love him but now it's time to move on. Blocked him everywhere and let's see how my healing process goes

Plz don't judge me I jst wanted to get heard here.

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vishnu732004
Posted On Jun 14, 2025

Love is sppam. I'm like use n throw. All are temporary here

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Rajan2409
Posted On Jun 14, 2025

Me want good love fare friendship

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kumar *
Posted On Jun 15, 2025

@TopGenX. Well said. You are right.
We should be always in "No Strings Attached" zone.
But one person will definitely come into our life and we will fall for him and it would end with a lifetime grief 😞

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mr_lonely_soul
Posted On Jun 15, 2025

I am 35 now. Even before I hit puberty, I knew I was gay. I might not have known what gay meant but I knew I was into boys. Even the first guy who touched me after I was a bit mature to understand things, he made me feel like he was in love with me. I always wanted to be in a relationship, not just random ***. The number of profiles I created and deleted in various sites, the guys I have met, the experiences I have had with them, I could write several books about it.

When you get something in abundance, you neither value nor respect it. That's how gay community is all over the world, especially in India. *** is the hidden agenda for most gays, no matter what they write in their profile or what they talk/chat with you. As soon as you meet, if there is a spark, cloths come off. I am not ashamed to say that I have done that and others have done it to me too.

6-7 years ago, I made up my mind that there is no such special person for me in this life. I am born to suffer alone and leave this earth. I am not saying this because of loneliness and depression. I just have come to terms with my fate. Probably a version of the "jackal and grapes" story :-)

I have met guys who came for their first date with me with a condom in the pant pocket, guys who will take you out on date and try their best to get intimate but won't have the decency to drop you back, a guy who I thought was serious about me saying things like "I want all of my friends to *** you hard" while he was on top of me, guys who exploited me for money and ***, guys who are married but wanted a "monogamous" relationship with me, guys who made me feel insecure about myself and made my life toxic, egoists, hurting me in every single way that's possible. But all these guys wanted ***, *** and guess what else? ***

I am not saying they were bad people and I am perfect. Wanting to have random *** is not wrong but don't do it under the covers of "relationships/love/affection". You want to *** and ***? There are millions of people available for that. Go, do it with them. Why give hope to some hopeless romantics and take away their hopes pieces by pieces? You will never find the answer for this.

Even friendship between gays are not long lasting for many. I had 2 gay BFFs. The things I have done for them cannot be described in words. I never had *** with them because I respected our friendship more than lust. One was my friend for 14 years and other was 10 years. When their life changed and got better, they completely ignored and abandoned me. Now I don't have a partner, no friends, I very very rarely meet any guys for *** and that too just foreplays. I wish my life was different. I wish I knew and understood things better. I wish I was a bit selfish. I wish I made more friendships. Even in this forum, lot of guys message me about wanting to start a friendship but *** no. Most people, if not everyone, is after *** and so be it. No strings attached.

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Mehertcdtrans
Posted On Jun 15, 2025

Am trans and I found love from two guys n now married to both of them and stay with dem happily
One is my dad and other is my frnds muslim uncle both of them love and on bed equally together

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Anirudhbottom
Posted On Jun 15, 2025

@silverkok testimonial is extremely accurate and correct and this happens to most gays in reality

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IlliosSun
Posted On Jun 15, 2025

After years of denial i finally accepted myself thinking maybe i will someday find someone who will see me as i am and love me for what I am. But experience like @mr_lonely_soul breaks my heart. 😮‍💨 is it really that difficult to find a partner in India.??

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Cuddle bear
Posted On Jun 16, 2025

@IlliosSun , It is really difficult especially in a country like India. It should not be. Our society is traditional and so there is a lot of pressure put onto us to keep up and continue the family name. Maybe if we had equal marriage laws, something would change. It would be easier to find and match with people instead of spending hours on hookup apps. Gay arranged marriage anyone? Haha. That would be a dream come true but who am I kidding. How many are going to be truly open to their family?
I am scared of living alone but more scared of dying alone in an empty house, discovered some days or months later.... All this only because I like boys instead of girls..God help us all.

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125_ *
Posted On Jun 17, 2025

Got no one to love who will respect me ... every tops i have seen to find attraction towards girls... No one ever prioritise me or wants to know about me... Every people are so happy in own lives but what a curse full life i have I don't know to be in depression? Lol might seem boring to many still

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sandyh
Posted On Jun 17, 2025

what about the idea of more than 2 people being in love?

Three people in a relationship? A throuple

Or one person being in love with more than one person at the same time?

Should we LGBTQ+ people stick to "traditional" concepts of love and family or should we push boundaries here as well.

What are your thoughts?

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mr_lonely_soul
Posted On Jun 18, 2025

You cannot actually love two or more people in the same way. You will always love one more than the other. Personally, I feel throuples and open relationship are just a modern way to *** as many people as you want. It's just an elegant way of putting it. Agenda is again ***. Even two people as a couple are not true and loyal to each other mostly. Throuples? *** no.

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Harry80
Posted On Jun 18, 2025

When you are truly in love, you feel fulfilled and refreshed.
But many people are afraid to fall in love because both they and their partners start judging each other.
Even during ***, you're not fully present—something else is running in the mind, 'distracting you from the act'.

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Gowtham999999
Posted On Jun 18, 2025

Find a true partner in this era is finding a diamond in the ocean. Just everyone seeks *** or rather to roam with someone as a friend. There is no true love now a days. The words which we hear in bed are totally fake which sounds like "never leave me alone", "i love u", "be in my lifetime". I was been tired of hearing these. And, some love stories, which comes like, "u r mine, but I *** with someone else, u can do with someone else". what's the definition of love then ? And, says "I want to live in same home but they are not ready to open up in family". Then what's the purpose of love here, just to fcuk? Acc. to me, the gay/bisex love could be exchanging the love, learning new things b/w us, doing random stuffs together, guiding both of us, small casual dates, helping out each other in every chores, long distance phone calls (if he is somewhere else), waiting for months to meet him. I found a true love begins here, not just thrusting the holes.

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Lovingbirds
Posted On Jun 19, 2025

मैं उससे 23 jan 2025 ko मिला था, jaraikela (odisa)का बिहारी मुस्लिम था! Md kamal (danis)मेरी govt जॉब की पोस्टिंग ओडिशा-झारखंड बॉर्डर एरिया में था!मैंने उसे सबसे पहले walla braud पर देखा था!6ft hairy Desi मुझे देखते ही अच्छा लगा था!मैंने उससे संपर्क किया, और फिर हमारी बातें हुईं
बातों से पता चला वो divorced है और दो बेटियों का बाप है,1 sal pahale ही उसका divorce हुआ था!फिर ham मिले और मेरी सील तुड़वाने की वर्षो की तमन्ना पूरी हुई, पहले दिन तो मैं उसका 6.5inch का ले ही नहीं पाया!लेकिन 3rd meeting में हमारा proper *** हुआ, जिस तरीके से हमारे बीच kissing, bodyplay और *** हुआ वो मुझे बहुत अच्छा लगा!फिर हमारी मुलाक़ातों का सिलसिला बढ़ता गया और फिर हम एक दूसरे के प्यार में पर गए!घंटों फोन पर बातें करना और week में 2 से 3 बार मिलना हमारा रूटीन हो गया!वो बेरोजगार था तो मैं उसकी financial help भी कर्ता था, उसके खाने पीने का ध्यान रखता था, हालांकि हम एक दूसरे से 10km दूर रहते थे, फिर भी एकदूसरे की care करते थे!हमने एकदूसरे को अपने बारे मे सबकुछ बताया था!फिर हम अपने पहले honeymoon पर digha (sea beach) गए थे, उससे पहले हम एक रात कोलकाता में रुके थे!हमने ढेर सारी shoping की और खूब सारी मस्ती, कोलकाता में हम रेड लाइट एरिया sonagachhi भी गए थे (सिर्फ घूमने, क्योंकि हमदोनों में से किसी ने भी कभी randiya नहीं देखी थी!कोलकाता से हम digha गए और वो हम दोनों का सबसे बेस्ट मोमेंट था, इससे पहले वो ऐसे किसी जगह पर घूमने नहीं गया था, 24 घंटे में हमने 7 बार chudai की थी, उसमे भी सबसे बेस्ट bathroom *** था!फिर ramjan aa गया और एक महीने तक हमारा *** बंद हो गया, रमजान के अंतिम दिनों यानी ईद की छुट्टी में mujhe घर जाना प़डा, जब मैं घर से आया तब उसने मुझे बताया कि वो किसी और से मिला था लेकिन सिर्फ *** करवाया था, (शायद वो malluu bhai ke name से id चलाता था),पर मैंने उसे माफ़ कर दिया क्योंकि उसने मुझसे छुपाया नहीं था,!उसने जो अपनी स्टोरी बताई थी उसके अनुसार उसका पहला *** 16 की उम्र में उसके मामा (चाची के भाई) के साथ हुआ था जो उसीके गाँव मे रहते थे, उन्होंने साथ में सोते वक़्त जबरदस्ती अपना land danis ki gand में डाल दिया था!उसके बाद उनका गाँव के कई दोस्तों के साथ *** हुआ था जिसमें शाहरुख, अख्तर, bholu आदि प्रमुख थे, kairana(up)में उनकी खाला का बेटा रोहित गुर्जर (hindu name but muslim) se bhi *** hua था, rajgangpur(odisa)में अपने fufere बहनोई के भांजे के साथ भी!राउरकेला, बिसरा, rajgangpur,sonua आदि जगहों में सैंकड़ों लोगों के साथ सेक्स हुआ था, grinder, walla, और facebook के थ्रो, insab में salim,mustak,mumtaj,raj aur चिन्मय name मुझे याद है!
हमारे रिश्ते में उस समय दरार आई जब वो ckp (chakradharpur,mandalsai)अपने बुआ के यहां गए थे और दो लोगों से मिले, उन्होंने मुझसे ये बात छुपाई, और मुझे थोड़ा सा clue मिला!वो दूसरा वाला मोबाइल जिसमें भी whatsapp था, मुझसे हमेसा छुपता था!recently वो कोलकाता गया अपने भतीजे के साथ salt lake city पानी tanki no 9 area me रुका था, waha bhi वो मुर्शिदाबाद के किसी मुस्लिम bottom से मिला था!और ये बात भी उसने छुपाई, हालांकि झूठ पकड़े जाने पर उसने सच बताया
मुझे समझ नहीं आ रहा मैं क्या करूं, उसकी आदत सी हो गई है, पूरी रात सो नहीं पाता हूं और उसके धोखे को याद कर रोता हू
मैं सोचता रहा कि उसका care और love Sacha है लेकिन वो सिर्फ मेरे पैसों के लिए मेरे साथ होने का दिखावा kar रहा था
आज सोचता हूं Ishwar ने मुझे ऐसा क्यूँ बनाया और इसका अन्जाम क्या होगा शायद.....atm.......ya🙏🏿

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Easy_mark_5 *
Posted On Jun 19, 2025

I don't want love. Unadulterated lust where the top wants to use my body like something that was given to him on a plate to eat and he just eats me alive like chicken or mutton and then fucks me in all positions while crazily pinching, licking biting my nipples, armpits, belly, belly button etc is what feels like love to me. To me absolutely filthy pure lust is love. But so far I only got one man who wanted to eat me and make me his bitch. Unfortunately he was from different state and nowadays it has been over one and a half months too that he hasn't been online. He had suffered an accident too. But just feel so empty again. His words will forever stay with me. He made me feel so special. We talked so disgusting things. I loved him. He loved my virgin ***. And while body as well.

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Harry80
Posted On Jun 19, 2025

After reading the posts in this group, I feel people are defining love based on their Wants and ego.

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MYTOOL4u
Posted On Jun 19, 2025

love respect each other

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***
Posted On Jun 21, 2025

Men give love to get *** and women give *** to get love.... go figure!!